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Archer said:

To be honest I don't really see enough people awakening and joining forums any more to notice any patterns whatsoever.

True… these days there really aren't the waves of awakening that there used to be, or if there are they aren't as visible.

I've read a bit in RL media about na'vi kin, but without otherkin being mentioned – is it possible that there are lots around, just not in any way associated with otherkin? There have also been a fair few people claiming to be something or other from The Golden Compass, and at least one forum with a stack of them on it.

 So far, everyone who has claimed to be na'vi kin that I've seen around has just been trolling.  I'm not discounting the idea that we may find some sincere ones out there, but I haven't encountered them yet.  I'm actually kind of glad of that, as it shows people aren't just jumping on the latest bandwagon of kintypes.

Golden compass?  Do you mean the daemians?  I've been looking at them, but I haven't figured out quite what they believe… if they think they're nonhuman or if they are just using the term from Golden Compass to describe a totemic experience or what…

Archer said:

I've definitely heard about people who seem to genuinely think they're na'vi, as opposed to trolls in the obvious places, but haven't looked for them first hand. I don't see immediate crossover with the otherkin community though, because by its nature believing yourself to be from a specific modern fictional story implies believing that specific story is real, and nothing more.

Unfortunately some of the ones people think are genuine are the trolls.  Tireanavi for example.  But it's very possible that there are genuine ones out there.  I just haven't run into the ones who really believe that yet.

Plenty of people believe Star Trek is real, but I'd say they don't generally pop up in otherkin groups because otherkin groups by their nature are more general. Also of course, in otherkin groups it's only acceptable to believe you're from a fictional story if it's Milton or Tolkein or something otherwise canonised, pop culture inhabitants must be fakers

Depends on where in the otherkin community you go.  A lot of places have shunned fictionkin less because of their actual beliefs and more because of some of the early vocal examples, like Maduin.  It's largely guilt by association.  But there are other boards, like this one, where fictionkin are welcome.  

I think those daemon people are the ones I mean, yes, but i'm sure I've seen other websites for them.

Probably, I just haven't explored very far into their subculture.

Either way, if something is very specifically tied to one story then I don't think there's likely to be much of a crossover into otherkin groups. Na'vi are na'vi are na'vi and they're from Avatar. Elves on the other hand appear in Lord of the Rings but they're from myth and legend. Vampires feature in Twilight but they're from deep in human psychology.

*shrugs* Doesn't always seem to work that way… there are plenty of otherkin types who don't appear in older myths and legends.  Hell, arguably half of the otherkin groups calling themselves elves don't remotely fit the myths or legends of elves, or even Tolkein's version, in any way other than superficial resemblance.  And there's lots of folks already thinking of the Na'vi as blue fuzzy elves.  I think we probably will see some genuine ones pop up before too long, if they don't get sucked into groups like To The Home Tree that are run by the trolls.