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Jarandhel Dreamsinger
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So, last night I decided to do some more poking around online trying to find resources dealing with recovering languages from lives on other worlds.  I feel very certain that there have been more out there that I've seen during my time in the otherkin community than I've linked to so far, and it's been driving me crazy that I can't seem to find more of them.

During the course of my search, I decided to take another look at the Starseed community and see how they've dealt with remembered languages from other worlds.  I was rather surprised to find no dictionaries of what they term “star languages”.  Instead, they seem to treat it entirely as an expression of SoundFeel:

When we speak in Star Language we are communicating what we do not yet know that we know. This language is not understood by the mind, instead it is transmitted into our cells where it activates our 'cellular memory banks'. Yes, we understand it with our hearts. It requires no word to word translation, for this is where earth languages are too limiting. It is rather a transference of 'essence'.

This parallels the speaking in tongues experience of neopentecostal churches, a similarity they acknowledge:

Languages which come from the stars. There are myriad dialects as there are myriad star systems. Star Language is understood with the heart, rather than the mind. It is the language of the Invisible as well as the root source of the ancient Earth languages. In religions it has been referred to as “glossolalia” or “speaking in tongues”

To me this seems rather contradictory… “myriad dialects” of a language that is understood with the heart rather than the mind?  If it is indeed a transfer of essence through sound, why would more than one dialect evolve?

Anyway, just thought it was interesting the very different directions the two communities have taken with regard to nonhuman language.

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It's contradictory because it is full of shit.  This is all just designed as a convenient way to bullshit a language and then claim it came from some mystical past life amongst the stars.  Dialects wouldn't be needed for such an energy transferrence.  Information travels through space raw, and if there is a problem with interpretation, that usually means your receiver is shot.  The “receiver” in this case, being the person making the claim.  However, seeing as we're not referring to radio astronomy, one would have to come up with an idea on how to determine which transmission is clear and which one isn't, or is fabricated to begin with (usually the latter is standard).

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technobushi said:

It's contradictory because it is full of shit.  This is all just designed as a convenient way to bullshit a language and then claim it came from some mystical past life amongst the stars.

My inclination is to agree, but I'm confused by one thing.  Assuming for the moment that at least some starseeds are genuine, even if they're just otherkin who found the wrong community first, why do there seem to be *no* language dictionaries in the starseed community as far as I can find?  Nobody who's bucked the star language == soundfeel party line and presented their own lexicon of remembered terms?  The starseed community has been around for decades longer than those calling themselves otherkin, I find it hard to believe that not even one wordlist would have come out by now.  Also, why the mention of dialects in the first place?  It implies that someone put in the work to compare these supposed star languages and found they didn't match up.  So where is that work now?

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Without knowing too much about Starseeds, and just going by my own situation, I'd guess language may just not be remembered enough to produce terms and dictionaries, or else it's not a priority for those people. Looking at the extreme difficulty we have with even remembering our own names and those of close people, leave alone anything else… we can tell here when a language has a similar ring to something we were used to, but it's never possible to pin down any words, or grammar, or tell if there is any relation to current or past human language or if it's a) coincidence caused by similar sounds coming together or b) our head playing a trick on us upon hearing things over here. And we do have decent linguistic background knowledge of this world. The memory is still very elusive.

My other half and I were both bilingual, and one of the languages is entirely impossible to grasp in memories, whereas this world's older French reminds us of the other – which could be for any reason or none at all.

And we frequently run across linguistic gaps in our mind where we know there was a word for something, but we find no equivalent here because it is not a named concept in any language we know here. But we can't graps more than that. Under those circumstances, a glossary is nothing we could even think of making.

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Claude said:

Without knowing too much about Starseeds, and just going by my own situation, I'd guess language may just not be remembered enough to produce terms and dictionaries, or else it's not a priority for those people.

I'd say it would have to be the second… the Otherkin community has nearly a dozen resources on the subject of remembered languages, most of them maintained by different individuals and with somewhat varying content.  And we haven't been around nearly as long as the Starseed community.  Surely, in all that time, someone in the starseed community would have remembered enough words to start working on a wordlist of some sort.  And such lists often tend to have a triggering effect for others, who then remember more of the language and add to the list themselves.

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