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This needs more thought obviously. But my quick and pessimistic first reply would be that there is no way of screening or testing people about that, nor would I want to subject myself or anyone to that sort of thing – I’d rather not bother at all. In the end there really is only taking the chance to believe someone’s words or not, and being potentially wrong about it.

And for more pessimism, I don’t think there’s any help here for that either and no support that’s not from closest trusted people, who are hard to come by in this kind of situation we’re in. Obviously more than 99% of the world population are out by default.

Then again I’m not yet familiar enough with the whole psychiatric/analytical concept to gauge how much I’d say it can help there – to me it sounds very foreign and not like anything that has any relevance to me. So it’s far from anything I’d seek out in the first place. I also don’t feel in need of help though, so I may just be lacking that perspective altogether.

Overall I think there really are just us few who are grouped together in certain combinations of people, and that has to do. If I was wrong, that’d probably be good for quite a few people – but I can’t muster that optimism.

I think we’re really the pioneers here. (To use somewhat less depressing language for once. ) This isn’t anything that’s been addressed in any public or mainstream area so far (if i has been somewhere in private by others, we can’t know), and it’s probably through the internet subcultures, despite all the … less productive elements… that there has been a community with general concerns formulated at all. And it’s obviously still very far from any mainstream concern – probably the “still” in this sentence is too optimistic in itself. What it comes down to is that we are the ones who have to figure out how to deal with things best. And I think that’s entirely possible. Why listen to others, when we’re always talking as derisively about others’ writing on the topics in question as we are? If there’s any way one can work this out, we’ll be the ones to find it. Because there really isn’t anyone else to rely on, and because we’re already doing a better job than quite a few others, judging by the state of the community/ies.

casteylan said:

This is one of the reasons I fell quiet, particularly after I became the main fronter in the system. Sometimes I look at the fakers and bullshitters with their fanfic fantasies, and then I look at myself, and to an outsider I imagine my story looks exactly the same. I can’t prove my case any more than those people, nor do I particularly want to have to defend myself and my head-mates at every turn.

There are others in our group who won’t post at all, or even allow me to discuss where they come from, even in a forum like this, because of the fear of being thought of as another faker.

 

Oh, yes. Indeed. My system was somewhat involved with the relevant communities for a while, long before I did any real fronting, and got burned out by it. We’re now staying firmly within our small circles for any serious talk or any revelations about identity matters. I’m even a lot less shy than some of my headmates, and I still keep a lot to myself because – well I just can’t be bothered with trying to argue my case for not being “one of those”, and honestly, that would be an easy conclusion to come to with me, too.

*laugh* Looks like we’re all sort of the same, doesn’t it.

It’s incredibly difficult if not impossible to get any sort of professional help dealing with issues when those issues “belong” to a walk-in or head-mate. So sometimes the advice to “just get over it” is really the only option we have.

 

Yeah, exactly.

I suppose I also got comparatively lucky, and I feel like quite the cynic or sociopath for rating things like this, but that’s just my psychological make-up maybe. And fact is, I wouldn’t have gotten psychological help in the lifetime before this either, because we didn’t have that kind of culture. You really did just “get over it”, or you didn’t and saw about getting by somehow anyway. That was all there was. And I don’t miss that kind of thing either, I wouldn’t go if I had the opportunity. But I do wish there was better help for those who actually want it. I guess that’s really our job though, utterly unqualified as we may be.