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Ancient of Days
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Here are a few thoughts.
Are there any people here who deliberately seek out memories? If so, why? And how do you go about triggering them? Is there a technique for memory recovery in general, that can work on multiple different formats, such as past life, or recovering present-life amnesia?
I myself have amnesia that spans at least three years. During that time, my body underwent some sort of change. Some have equated it to a shamanic rebirth, as pieces went missing and/or were replaced with other pieces. What, why and how remains to be debated. I have tried the usual methods (meditation, etc.) with no success. Either my subconscious is repressing these memories, or there is otherwise a deliberate block on them.
Any thoughts on this, or am I just batshit nuts?
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I generally don't seek out memories.. in my experience, they've come to me, generally being triggered almost like PTSD flashbacks. Â I've thought sometimes about trying to work with them more consciously, but I'm afraid of influencing what I remember that way rather than having it arise on its own.
That said, I do know of a few resources with techniques for recovering memories. Â I haven't tried them myself, but they seem sound in principle.
http://elenari.net/Elenari/mem…..ieval.html
http://www.lostkin.org/technqs.htm
http://greenworld.spiritualite…..¦html#help (about “Guardians”, but applies to otherkin as well.)
It's at least a start.
Oh, the Trueform (& Alternate True Form), True Memory, and Cluehammer channeled Reiki symbols may also help with this, though that last one especially does not tend towards gentleness. Â I've also had some luck with Elvendreams and Achedunoi for awakening work.
Ancient of Days
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I usually don't have a desire to deliberately seek out memories myself. To me, it opens one up too much to subconscious suggestion (as you inferred above). They also come to me in similar fashion–sometimes literally–as PTSD flashbacks.
What I am specifically concerned with, however, is the three-year time period I spoke of, and which you know more detail over. There are snatches here and there I get, but I want to know what happened mainly due to the changes that were made to my Astral body. It's something that has been bothering me since I got here. Somehow, I've been particularly agitated by this knowledge lately, for reasons I can't explain.
Is there a “reading” that people can do, like scanning an aura, in a way that isn't totally invasive? I normally do not allow for such things, and keep heavy shielding around myself at all times. This is partially due to the alleged tampering of my body that occurred. It seems that no matter what dimension or world I end up in, someone ends up tampering with me.
Duo of course, was quick to claim that it was the work of “God”. Although he speaks of this as a Good Thing, this does not, needless to say, alleviate my feelings in the matter. Â
~Tenshi
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I guess the answer to that really depends on what you consider invasive… personally, I wouldn't consider someone scanning an aura any more invasive than an X-Ray, but it sounds like you do. Â Given your history, I certainly understand your reasons, but I'm not sure what could be done in a way you wouldn't feel as an invasion, even with the best of intentions.
I'm not really clear on what Duo sees as the work of God in all this, or why.
-Jarin
Ancient of Days
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Jarandhel Dreamsinger said:
I guess the answer to that really depends on what you consider invasive… personally, I wouldn't consider someone scanning an aura any more invasive than an X-Ray, but it sounds like you do.  Given your history, I certainly understand your reasons, but I'm not sure what could be done in a way you wouldn't feel as an invasion, even with the best of intentions.
I'm not really clear on what Duo sees as the work of God in all this, or why.
-Jarin
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He sees it in the sense of divine intervention, I suppose.
As for the other stuff, I'm still going back and forth on the idea. I'm not sure.Â
What unnerves me is the idea that I was modified in that interim. I have no idea who, how or by what. But obviously I wouldn't have done this myself, and especially not in the state I was in during that time. Like a machine, someone/thing disassembled me, replaced parts, then sent me on my way. And I have no idea whether or not to be grateful or enraged. Or both at the same time.
~Tenshi
Ancient of Days
technobushi said:
Are there any people here who deliberately seek out memories? If so, why? And how do you go about triggering them? Is there a technique for memory recovery in general, that can work on multiple different formats, such as past life, or recovering present-life amnesia?
No, for a few reasons.
First, we tend to a state of PTSD ourselves, and probing for memories that have carried over from another incarnation run the risk of activating memories from our predecessors’ life which we do not have the ability to deal with at this time. Second, memories are stored in a highly unreliable fashion within organic neural networks – the act of remembering and the act of confabulation use almost the same neural equipment, be it augmented in some fashion or not. The risk of accidentally getting false information is too high for us to consider it a worthwhile technique (for us, as it were).
We agreed that we would much rather let chance and fate determine for us if and when we should have access to that information. One of the nice things about a new incarnation is that we get to start over, hopefully with much less to deal with than the last time ’round.
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technobushi said:
Is there a “reading” that people can do, like scanning an aura, in a way that isn't totally invasive? I normally do not allow for such things, and keep heavy shielding around myself at all times. This is partially due to the alleged tampering of my body that occurred. It seems that no matter what dimension or world I end up in, someone ends up tampering with me.
Reading – no. A few of us could crack into your long term memory field and start sifting through the information there, but we do not think that it would be pleasant or desirable for you. Using a construct to do the same would also likely be uncomfortable.
The most pleasant (but possibly most invasive) technique would involve installing an information indexing and retrieval subsystem that would be compatible with your particular neural network and software. It would take time to install and program and more time for you to get used to using it. However, it would also give you better control over retrieving your memories. Contact us offline if you are interested.
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technobushi said:
Is there a “reading” that people can do, like scanning an aura, in a way that isn't totally invasive?
Just to clarify, was the reading you were asking for an information scan (trying to find raw data about what happened to you in the past… memory retrieval/psychometry?) or a diagnostic/forensic scan (trying to determine how your energy system was altered with the intent of deducing method, purpose, and perpetrator?) Â I took it as the latter when you asked, the former possibility hadn't even occurred to me until The Doctor's comment.
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I think it depends on whether you're supposed or able to get that kind of knowledge or not. As you know, we have soon given up on knowing anything about times between lives and bodies and dimensions; we figure it's just not for us. And I bet something like a fixing like that just cannot be fullky understood. Where something like that happened with us, we struggle with explanations, draw out any logic and experience we can, and always find something is off and we were wrong again. I guess it just happens, and if someone changed you, they know how to and you won't – what we can understand is, after all, very limited. Maybe just let it go.
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In the cases where knowledge *can* be gained, I've found that obsessing enough about it will eventually lure out some data. If you're your own trainwreck that you can't help but stare at, even your current brain will be trained into those lines of thought, and maybe become more compatible with the repressed information in your soul. And even if you try to turn away, your subconscious will keep looking, and eventually trigger something. Whether that's a good or bad thing differs by case. If you have a choice in the direction of your thoughts at all, at least consider carefully if you want the information and if you can deal with it.
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For me I don't try to trigger memories, in fact I repress a lot of them. I have had memory of my past lives my whole life, but my first life is the dominant one. I repress it because even though most of it was happy, the end was so traumatic that whenever I remember it in detail I slip into a depressed state for weeks on end, barely able to get out of bed. If it weren't for that I would probably be able to call any memory to the front of my mind at will, although memory in all species can still make mistakes. I do often think for extended periods of time into the good parts of that life, until the part were, actually I'd rather not get into full detail on that part. but I also remember things unintentionally, either from associating something in this life to my past lives, or in nightmares.
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